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asy's avatar

what is the R^2 of HLTV's IMPACT?

Because I have always considered it as a weird thing (it does not reward undeserving players, but it does punish deserving players to an extent)

And yes I am aware that aWPA/r is a stat not a rating, and I am very sure I referred to it as a stat everywhere I mentioned it.

As I understand it, rating is a derived value from all the "raw" stats we have. The purpose of rating is to save time, you can not watch all the games, you cannot watch all the POVs and you cannot remember everything that happens in a game, this number gives the general "quality" of performance of a player from a single glance. But to make any drastic conclusions, of course you have to do a deeper dive, you compare some more specific stats, you have to bring in where the stats come from (what type of roles or positions the player plays), against who do you get these stats (top30 opposition or top10 opposition), and where do you get these stats (in an online match or in an arena playoff).

No rating will ever truly account for all of this. Maybe in the future when our overlords at the HLTV headquarters implement a ML based ratings.

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asy's avatar

I was checking all the places where I referred it.

stat:

https://www.hltv.org/forums/threads/3038326/rating-30 (i refer it as stat in the actual body of text)

https://www.hltv.org/forums/threads/3038326/rating-30#r67102537 (just another stat)

rating:

https://www.hltv.org/forums/threads/3038326/rating-30#r67102450 (his rating)

so I misused it once, I apologise.

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nomiun's avatar

Oh I wasn't concerned about you misusing it, there was another guy responding to you that was conflating the two and making a point about how sh1ro was over donk and it seemed like he thought it was saying that sh1ro is definitively better than donk when it's just more complicated than that.

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nomiun's avatar

I was thinking of doing the average impact rating but it's kind of a disservice to do that in my opinion, I might do it in the future but for now I'll pass.

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nomiun's avatar

Well yeah I'm working towards that lol

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